Theyre seeing evil in everything where theres generally none. The superintendent reminded those attending and listening remotely to the press conference to continue sending any information related to the case about Allen or any other individual to the tip line set up years ago: Call 1-844-459-5786; or email [email protected]. We cannot publicly convict someone based on a single document which was not released by investigators. We also believe that he never lost them in the first place, and they were probably in his pocket the whole time. Carrie added that everything she knows about it, she learned on Facebook. The Murder Sheet Podcastwas first to publish the transcript of an Indiana State Police interview with Kline, where he admitted having contact with Libby German and suggested police had told him he failed a polygraph test about the murders. A kind of sick taunt? In an effort to help the public recognize whom they were looking for, Indiana State Police in July 2017 released a composite sketch of what they thought the killer looked like. Ive heard that when a killer feels something for his victim, hes more likely to care for the body, for example, wrap it in a blanket to protect it from the elements, etc. These two SPMs arrived at these conclusions independently. ( as I said, I took this as I would a rumor-type of info and the only thing I've ever read about the crime scene. Did anyone from the families join the search party? Thats not true. On Feb. 13, 2017, the two friends had gone for a hike on the Delphi Historic Trails and were reported missing by their families when they did not return home that afternoon. ", The detective then asked: "So why would you worry about your DNA being on that body? Also re searchers, it was not Mr. X that found the bodies, it was actually Jake Johns. The pre-hearing courtroom chatter grew quiet as deputies led Allen into the courtroom from a back door. In a news conference, Indiana State Police shared Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, was arrested Wednesday and charged on two counts of murder during a court hearing two days later. LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- New details have been released in the case of two young girls found murdered in Indiana five years ago. Clear as day. With the mystery surrounding this case, people have begun to speculate whether or not certain convicted criminals whose names make the news are actually tied to the Delphi murders. Five years ago today, in Delphi, Ind., two best friends, Abigail Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, went missing while on a hike through the city's . ", Delphi killings:4 things we learned about arrest in deaths of Liberty German and Abigail Williams. Next to the drawing, for no apparent reason, is an unusual (to me) looking knife. The revelation is included in a nine-page request for a search warrant filed March 17, 2017, a little more than one month after the murders. He is a welder and the hat the BG is wearing looks like a welders cap. Authorities said that Richard M. Allen, 50, of Delphi, Ind., was taken into custody last week and charged with two counts of murder Friday in the killings of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail. I just cant imagine my peers posting things like that. Supt. He was charged with a probation violation for driving with a suspended. The chatter rose again after Allen sat down between his attorneys. Then again if it was recent, makes me wonder if the guilt of covering up for Mr. X may have been eating him up inside? Liberty, who went by Libby, and Abigail, who went by Abby, went for a hike along the Monon High Bridge on Feb. 13, 2017. He was pretty young and had a lot of children. To me, he seems very stupid and immature, and I guess I want to believe the BG is some highly intelligent criminal mastermind to do something so awful and then evade capture for so long. Who would be familiar with a hunting ground but a hunter? Officials weren't sure just how many volunteers came, but sign-in sheets appeared to log hundreds." Only that there were stuffed animals. According to Leigh Kerr, the BG took locks of hair from the victims. In a town like Delphi, no one is innocent. Im sure it will come out. We now have two separate SPMs both independently reporting that they saw dolls hanging from trees at the crime scene. Kline replied: "I have no clue. An earlier version of this article misstated the date of Logans death. Indiana State Police. Theres a puppy sticking out of the bears collar. Kline responded. Could it be that subconsciously people remember not so much the trees but what was dangling from them as they tell what they saw? | ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The document was written by an FBI agent and describes what investigators found when they discovered the bodies of Abby and Libby on Feb. 14, 2017. DELPHI, Ind. DELPHI, Ind. "While theres somebody thats been arrested, our lives for five and a half years have been in a search mode and thats what weve done. Was it one person who discovered the girls? On Delphi, I agree with you about Chadwell. It describes his activity the day the girls went missing. I certainly wasnt there so I cant vouch one way or another. DELPHI, Ind. Compared to most single men his age, I dont think he has much animus towards young women at all. Down The Hill: The Delphi Murders HLN True Crime 3.7 10.4K Ratings; Abby and Libby - 2 young girls murdered. Were not. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Is there any chance the Police Officer NM was murdered and it was made to look like suicide? He tells off women in passive aggressive hostile posts. I think this is one of the essential clues in both cases. How many teams were present and which team found the girls? Nearly two years passed before authorities released a second composite sketch in April 2019, this one in stark contrast to the first, which they said more accurately depicted the killer, the Indianapolis Star reported. RE Mr X and keys On the police radio a male is mentioned returning to the cemetery with his wife to collect his vehicle. Suspect Richard Allen arrested in 2017 killings of 2 teens in Indiana, Four reasons a credit-card balance transfer may be a bad idea, Dont let paying for a funeral add to your grief, Beware of these pitfalls when planning your own funeral. I am close in age to Chadwell and I cannot imagine writing things like that. The police didn't take them seriously at the very beginning. And the new one we just talked to is saying that she was told not to tell anyone, but the scene was bugging and eating away at her so much that she just had to spill finally. Also Thursday, the Indiana Department of Correction said Richard Allen, who has been charged with murder in the deaths of Abby Williams and Libby German, has been moved to one of their facilities. How do we help.". Our understanding also is that he never even called her to have her bring the keys. We have never given up. I saw that. Makes me wonder if LE did look at him at one point. It is our theory that Mr. X stalked Libby on Snapchat for four months until the murders. "It's obviously significant in some way; I can only just hope that it's for the girls, but we don't know. It's a development loved ones of Libby German and Abby Williams have long prayed for: charges filed in connection to the Delphi murder investigation. Reach Ron Wilkins at [email protected]. Every time one comes up, everybody flips and says this is the guy!! The multi-agency task force working on the Delphi case is certain that the new sketch accurately depicts the face of the man who killed Abby and Libby. Breaks my heart that the family had to try so hard to get help. Could you imagine, all the accomplices connected? Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. Were there dogs? Will the public interest be substantially served by limiting access?" Moments after multiple law enforcement agencies announced the arrest of Richard Allen, 50, in the 2017 killings of Delphi teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams, the grandparents of one of the girls spoke of how their lives have turned a page. According to prosecutors, Kline used a bogus social media profile with the username "anthony_shots" to contact and illicit nude photographs from numerous underage girls. Mr. X? Thats one theory we are looking at. Yeah, I can do a post, but in the post Im going to say hes not it because hes not BG. Ive probably seen him. "That's just a common thing to freak out about like, [why]; you know what I mean?" Would that indicate they (Abby and Libby) were put there after the search was called off? Delphi was revenge for Flora. Regardless of what I could happen to "find" by searching as I stated further above in a post, if anyone needed help in my area I would surely help! Are you questioning that claim? Delphi murders:What we know and don't know 5 years after Abby and Libby were killed. Lot of men his age talk like that about women. I would like to remind the public that this is an active and ongoing investigation, and we will do everything we can to protect its integrity and to not try it in the court of public opinion. ", The detective said: "Then why'd you search?". But get this. Very suspicious. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, http://www.pharostribune.com/news/local_news/article_031b521c-f2e3-11e6-a249-a77587cb24f9.html. (and probably always will) Obviously, they saw how their bodies were left and considering that, might have knowledge of how they were murdered from that scene. And you guys have not given up on us. Allen shuffled his way to the defense table wearing a yellow jumpsuit, a black ballistic vest and his hands awkwardly chained to his chest left over right. Precisely how they were killed has never been revealed by police. In addition, I can see a stuffed animal in the crime scene photo. But police did not disclose the cause of death at the time, saying only that the case was a double homicide investigation and the girls autopsies have remained under seal. Yet somehow they didnt come across the bodies until over half a day after the search party started. He tells off women in passive-aggressive hostile posts. Recently in the People Magazine Investigates episode on Delphi, Carter says People need to let us handle this case, let what we saw that day eat away at us like it does. They saw something horrendous that day. This is one reason I dont think JBC is BG. What's the procedure when bodies are located? Maybe because he witnessed real dolls where the girls were found? I appreciate your work. Sarah Larimer contributed to this report. By mid-morning, the downtown Delphi Fire Department became a makeshift command center for volunteers assisting in the search. I theorize that after release from prison he was itinerant and carried a gun for protection. Why not donate to the best Delphi sleuthing team of all by donating to me, leader of a group of 230+ sleuthers who have been working on the case for four years now? This is especially important with the heinous murders of Abby and Libby. (WLS) -- There is a new push for information four years after police found teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams dead, in Delphi, Indiana. In other words, its now proven that more than one stuffed animal was left at the scene. Multiple sources indicate that a man named Richard Allen was booked into the Carroll County Jail Friday in connection with the Delphi murder investigation. The Delphi Murder Tip Line was routed to the FBI's Major Case Contract Center in Washington, D.C because of the sheer number of calls they were receiving. The girls were reported missing to police at 5:30 pm. A RELATIVE of a suspect in the Delphi murders was taken into custody earlier this month as investigators concluded a weeks-long search in a local river potentially linked to the unsolved case. But now we have a response to that rejoinder. I also think the girls went to the bridge to meet YGS, but they got OGS instead, or possibly both. The original female search party member (SPM1) also spoke independently with another member of my team, a woman. Prosecutors fueled speculation during Tuesday's hearing that Richard Allen was not alone when they allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams in early 2017. Previously:'Today is the day': Update to Delphi murders of Libby and Abby announced by ISP. The killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in February 2017 have . Stuffed animals at a double murder scene are weird enough, granted. Your email address will not be published. I would have thought that the name would have been accidentally leaked in town to let the families handle it if LE is unable to. Very interesting. The inevitable questions arise. Carroll County judge recuses himself in Delphi murders. And my calculations by measuring the bear and comparing it to the height of Abby (54?) They force his wife to abandon their house.. But there it is, sitting right there, staring us in our faces. Pictures 1, 2, 3, and 5 show the area during and after the search. Allen, 50, was charged on two counts of. If he isnt the BG, he has some macabre fascination with the murder. Looking at Facebook posts from 2017, its clear that he had reddish hair then and that it could appear curly when short. On February 13, 2017, Liberty "Libby" German, 14, and Ab is that that damned stuffed animal is as tall as Abby. The Murder Sheet Podcastfirst published the documents, and I-Team 8 has confirmed with a police source that the document is authentic. Arrest made in Delphi case: Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams A search party found their bodies along Deer Creek, about a quarter of a mile east. It was unclear Monday whether Allen has an attorney. Because this is a pending investigation, we do not have any details to share at this time., FBI Special Agent in Charge Herbert J. Stapleton. He took his wife with him. The main suspect and the CSI guy. How long did it take to get everyone together? That is very interesting. I keep seeing people say it was a sunken bowl surrounded by a circle of trees. Kind of odd that the most descriptive mentions point out a circle of trees. Not validated via LE, but its a popular rumor that police officer NM was the one supplying the apparently fake alibi for Mr. X. Indiana State Police "It would be great to finally get some justice for the girls. Delphi Murders Delphi Murders Timeline: Disappearance, Years-Long Manhunt and the Possible Break Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the afternoon of Feb. 13, 2017. Allen, 50, has been. The big stuffed animal and all of the dolls would haunt me to the point that I would eventually have to tell someone. - Stunning new documents describe the scene where two young girls were murdered in Delphi, Indiana, five years ago. I havent seen this stuff. They try to walk it back in more recent interviews but you can see it on their face. Talk about the helpless, right? Allen, who has entered a preliminary plea of not guilty, will appear in court on Jan. 13 for a pre-trial hearing. As Carter said, This is about power to you.. Who were they? DELPHI, IN - It was Valentine's Day, 2017, when the corpses of two young teen girls, Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail " Abby" Williams, were found under a train bridge. I read somewhere an account by a search party member from the night before, that one of the search party organizers prevented his group from searching the actual crime scene by saying you all cant go here, its been searched already. Wouldnt LE and Fire officials have kept a list of folks who participated in the search? DELPHI, Ind. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. 1:08. I have thought flora & Delphi are connected ever since I learned of the Flora Fire. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. February 24, 2017 and our The 38-year-old was arrested in September 2015 on a warrant for operating a vehicle while intoxicated and driving while intoxicated with a controlled substance. And most of what we have reported is based on solid sources such as search party members, official case documents, and LE sources close to the investigation. There were dolls hanging from trees. Just forget it. Kline denied involvement in the girls' deaths, calling the timing of his correspondence with Libby a "weird a** coincidence.". Scarf around neck. You see, another two victims together (if they suspect foul play?) If yes, they can sort out the crime scene DNA, right? They had been keeping this a secret for all this time, but this secret was starting to bother her and eat away at her, so she released it to a member of my team, a woman. He said hes hiding in plain sight," Patty said. For more information, please see our I could be wrong but I did read that. The probable cause affidavit and charging information were sealed by court order, McLeland said, to protect the ongoing investigation. In two August court filings, Kline's attorney said that his client was "exploring other legal options" about his child porn charges and negotiating with prosecutors. I've read somewhere a few different times (only via rumor and not fact obviously and my apologies as I can't even remember where I read this, only that I definitely read it somewhere) that one of the girls' was left in a propped -up position against a tree. 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