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Ultimately, they could take it to court and you will need to decide at that point if you wish to defend it or not. Parking Firms should be part of one of two Parking Associations. There are a number of debt collection companies involved in private parking, including Debt Recovery Plus, Equita, and Zenith Collections, and MIL. Some of these are outlined below for illustrative purposes, but you may want to tailor them to suit the specifics of your case. Click here to make a no-obligation enquiry. To enforce the debt they need to go to Court, but the time delay wouldnt prevent a court granting a court order. god tell her to NEVER EVER ring these fleecers please! they LIE to extort money out of people. Started November 29, 2021. 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Interestingly, some people say Mcdonalds are actually a real estate firm that sells food, rather than a fast food firm that owns property. The Sun website is regulated by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO), Our journalists strive for accuracy but on occasion we make mistakes. The problem with trespass in Scotland is damages are not payable unless it can be shown that damage has been caused. There is a reputable presumption you were driving the car, as it is your car. He added: Theres no way I will pay that fine, not without any evidence. A general query. However, for the firm to know who she is they would have obtained her details from the DVLA This means they will be members of a Parking Association. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. As stated above, if the firm did not display its terms in an easily accessible format before you entered the contract, and only displayed them once you entered the car park, then arguably those terms do not apply to your contract. However, I would just suggest contacting them and asking (see here). Thanks Colin. This is usually done by displaying those terms and conditions on a sign before you drive onto the land. In short, you might have a legal obligation to pay the parking fine in Scotland and theres no getting out of it. Ignoring things is generally not a Kind Regards David. Hope it works out. You can also ask for evidence your wife overstayed. His local Citizen Advice Bureau or Student Advice Service may be able to help him or the law school in many universities also run free law clinics. That would mean disputing the level of the charge with them and waiting to see if they took you to Court and then defending the action on the basis you think the amount is punitive or excessive. The fine can be taken to Court with a view to obtaining a Court Order. They normally do. They will most likely also be members of a private parking body and must follow their codes of practice and you may have rights to a late appeal to those bodies also. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Saying you never saw it wont usually be enough. Another showed the boot of an adjacent car open in both photos, despite the timestamp in both photos being hours apart. Also in terms of settling the debt, so it doesnt affect his credit rating, this isnt automatic and there is a procedure which is explained on this page on the Scottish Courts website which deals with Money Judgements and Certificates of Satisfaction. To most people this is quite a worry since they start to imagine big shaven-headed blokes knocking on the door to take away their TV or car. They don't need to prove that you were parked, although it is obviously helpful to do so. 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